Comments on: The Real “Climate Change” Agenda Emerges: Hand Over Billions to the Third World http://bnp.org.uk/2009/11/the-real-%e2%80%9cclimate-change%e2%80%9d-agenda-emerges-hand-over-billions-to-the-third-world/ Discover the real BNP! Fri, 19 Mar 2010 16:39:32 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Duchess http://bnp.org.uk/2009/11/the-real-%e2%80%9cclimate-change%e2%80%9d-agenda-emerges-hand-over-billions-to-the-third-world/comment-page-1/#comment-325370 Duchess Sun, 29 Nov 2009 22:21:00 +0000 http://bnp.org.uk/?p=23905#comment-325370 Well, I think Peter Gunn has answered that question. Basically MJ was displaying that the 'big movers' destroyed large areas of rainforests which was paid for by banks and global businesses.This has possibly had much more of an effect on global warming than cows farting, or any other ridiculous reason the lobbyists want to throw at us. Personally I don't belive in man made global warming, I think that climate change is a totally natural phenomena, and instead of trying to change the inevitable we should be using those resources to adapt to a changing world. It is so arrogant of mankind to think it can control the world, there is nothing so destructive as the misplaced belief in control. Well, I think Peter Gunn has answered that question. Basically MJ was displaying that the 'big movers' destroyed large areas of rainforests which was paid for by banks and global businesses.This has possibly had much more of an effect on global warming than cows farting, or any other ridiculous reason the lobbyists want to throw at us.
Personally I don't belive in man made global warming, I think that climate change is a totally natural phenomena, and instead of trying to change the inevitable we should be using those resources to adapt to a changing world. It is so arrogant of mankind to think it can control the world, there is nothing so destructive as the misplaced belief in control.

]]> By: 2ndclasscitizen http://bnp.org.uk/2009/11/the-real-%e2%80%9cclimate-change%e2%80%9d-agenda-emerges-hand-over-billions-to-the-third-world/comment-page-3/#comment-325250 2ndclasscitizen Sun, 29 Nov 2009 20:22:34 +0000 http://bnp.org.uk/?p=23905#comment-325250 <a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/earthpicturegalleries/6672284/Copenhagen-climate-change-conference-2009-we-look-at-the-problems-our-changing-planet-is-facing.html?image=24" target="_blank">http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/earthpicturegall...</a> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/earthpicturegall...

]]> By: 2ndclasscitizen http://bnp.org.uk/2009/11/the-real-%e2%80%9cclimate-change%e2%80%9d-agenda-emerges-hand-over-billions-to-the-third-world/comment-page-3/#comment-325214 2ndclasscitizen Sun, 29 Nov 2009 19:58:33 +0000 http://bnp.org.uk/?p=23905#comment-325214 <a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/india/6684989/Indian-nuclear-workers-deliberately-poisoned.html" target="_blank">http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/in...</a> "It is possibly an act of mischief," the statement said.... Jesus! God help them if they end up with eggs thrown at the windows!!!!! http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/in...

"It is possibly an act of mischief," the statement said….
Jesus! God help them if they end up with eggs thrown at the windows!!!!!

]]> By: Guest http://bnp.org.uk/2009/11/the-real-%e2%80%9cclimate-change%e2%80%9d-agenda-emerges-hand-over-billions-to-the-third-world/comment-page-3/#comment-325075 Guest Sun, 29 Nov 2009 17:28:22 +0000 http://bnp.org.uk/?p=23905#comment-325075 I hope Nick Griffin has the opportunity at the Copenhagen conference to draw their attention to the "Climategate" scandal as a reason to vote against the treaty pending a re-examination of the data by sceptical scientists. I hope Nick Griffin has the opportunity at the Copenhagen conference to draw their attention to the "Climategate" scandal as a reason to vote against the treaty pending a re-examination of the data by sceptical scientists.

]]> By: imnokuffar http://bnp.org.uk/2009/11/the-real-%e2%80%9cclimate-change%e2%80%9d-agenda-emerges-hand-over-billions-to-the-third-world/comment-page-3/#comment-325071 imnokuffar Sun, 29 Nov 2009 17:19:39 +0000 http://bnp.org.uk/?p=23905#comment-325071 The one thing I cannot get my head around is that when Krakatoa exploded it plunged the world into a mini-ice age, the Thames freezing over, red skies, huge temperature drops, crops failing etc etc. Now supposing we have another massive volcanic explosion. It would dwarf anything produced by mankind and with similiar results. True, probably man-made activity would exacerbate this, but not by much. The real problem is pollution of our oceans, the cutting down of the rain forests, and the destruction of our planet through mismanagement and greed. There is also the Malthusian scenario that there are simply too many people on the planet. The Gia will have her revenge and there is nothing we can do about it - but we can try to educate people. A bit of a gloomy scenario but apposite for the times. By the way did you hear about the decision of the Swiss to ban Minaret building - perhaps, finally, people are waking up ! The one thing I cannot get my head around is that when Krakatoa exploded it plunged the world into a mini-ice age, the Thames freezing over, red skies, huge temperature drops, crops failing etc etc. Now supposing we have another massive volcanic explosion. It would dwarf anything produced by mankind and with similiar results. True, probably man-made activity would exacerbate this, but not by much. The real problem is pollution of our oceans, the cutting down of the rain forests, and the destruction of our planet through mismanagement and greed. There is also the Malthusian scenario that there are simply too many people on the planet. The Gia will have her revenge and there is nothing we can do about it – but we can try to educate people. A bit of a gloomy scenario but apposite for the times. By the way did you hear about the decision of the Swiss to ban Minaret building – perhaps, finally, people are waking up !

]]> By: Vanguard http://bnp.org.uk/2009/11/the-real-%e2%80%9cclimate-change%e2%80%9d-agenda-emerges-hand-over-billions-to-the-third-world/comment-page-3/#comment-325059 Vanguard Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:45:52 +0000 http://bnp.org.uk/?p=23905#comment-325059 This nations wealth was built up over centuries of the blood, sweat and tears of our people. Many working people lived lives of near poverty while working long hours, in poor conditions for wealthy businessmen to get richer. Whenever there were wars the working people of Britain fought and died primarily to protect the interests of the ruling elite and big business. This is still happening in Afghanistan and Iraq. Our people struggled during the last century to gain good pay and conditions, along with pensions to allow them dignity in old age. Now this is all being dismantled by the Lib/Lab/Con who only represent the needs of the ruling elite and their Global business interests. Our people are fast losing everything that we have gained and the wealth of this nation is now being reallocated to the Third World. No wonder we are seeing the closure of final salary pension schemes and cuts in public services are inevitable, along with tax increases. Our young are being told they will have to work 'till they're 70 or 80 years old, being conned by the fallacy that we're all living longer. The truth is that while we are having our wealth stolen from us we are also being pushed to the back of the queue behind every minority group and immigrant. We are being ethnically cleansed and being made to pay for our own demise. We are being flushed down the toilet of history by madmen who believe in the Communist ideology of egalitarianism of all human beings. In my opinion, not one penny of our Nations wealth should leave these shores until this really does become that "land fit for heroes" which was promised to our forefathers after the last Great War. This nations wealth was built up over centuries of the blood, sweat and tears of our people. Many working people lived lives of near poverty while working long hours, in poor conditions for wealthy businessmen to get richer. Whenever there were wars the working people of Britain fought and died primarily to protect the interests of the ruling elite and big business. This is still happening in Afghanistan and Iraq. Our people struggled during the last century to gain good pay and conditions, along with pensions to allow them dignity in old age. Now this is all being dismantled by the Lib/Lab/Con who only represent the needs of the ruling elite and their Global business interests. Our people are fast losing everything that we have gained and the wealth of this nation is now being reallocated to the Third World. No wonder we are seeing the closure of final salary pension schemes and cuts in public services are inevitable, along with tax increases. Our young are being told they will have to work 'till they're 70 or 80 years old, being conned by the fallacy that we're all living longer. The truth is that while we are having our wealth stolen from us we are also being pushed to the back of the queue behind every minority group and immigrant. We are being ethnically cleansed and being made to pay for our own demise. We are being flushed down the toilet of history by madmen who believe in the Communist ideology of egalitarianism of all human beings. In my opinion, not one penny of our Nations wealth should leave these shores until this really does become that "land fit for heroes" which was promised to our forefathers after the last Great War.

]]> By: SheriffofNottingham http://bnp.org.uk/2009/11/the-real-%e2%80%9cclimate-change%e2%80%9d-agenda-emerges-hand-over-billions-to-the-third-world/comment-page-1/#comment-325034 SheriffofNottingham Sun, 29 Nov 2009 15:49:01 +0000 http://bnp.org.uk/?p=23905#comment-325034 Can't resist adding this plaudit from South Africa. Nick Griffin' s name is spreading round the world: "Another great win for the fight against climate change fraud was reached last night when it was revealed that Nick Griffin the famous climate change denier will represent the EU in December's Copenhangen Climate summit in Denmark." (Nick Griffin will represent EU at Copenhagen - <a href="http://tinyurl.com/y9szaqx)" target="_blank">http://tinyurl.com/y9szaqx)</a> Nick is a hero to sceptics everywhere, it seems. Can't resist adding this plaudit from South Africa. Nick Griffin' s name is spreading round the world:

"Another great win for the fight against climate change fraud was reached last night when it was revealed that Nick Griffin the famous climate change denier will represent the EU in December's Copenhangen Climate summit in Denmark." (Nick Griffin will represent EU at Copenhagen – http://tinyurl.com/y9szaqx)

Nick is a hero to sceptics everywhere, it seems.

]]> By: SheriffofNottingham http://bnp.org.uk/2009/11/the-real-%e2%80%9cclimate-change%e2%80%9d-agenda-emerges-hand-over-billions-to-the-third-world/comment-page-1/#comment-325032 SheriffofNottingham Sun, 29 Nov 2009 15:44:38 +0000 http://bnp.org.uk/?p=23905#comment-325032 Great to hear that Nick Griffin will be representing the EU at the Copenhagen climate change conference as a doubter and heretic. "In a speech to the European Parliament last week Mr Griffin claimed those who warned of climate change were "anti-western intellectual cranks" and described climate change as "a secular religious hysteria"." (BNP leader to attend Copenhagen climate conference - <a href="http://tinyurl.com/y9lg652" target="_blank">http://tinyurl.com/y9lg652</a> ) Reminds of the Bohemian reformer and critic of ecclesiastical correctness John Hus at the Council of Constance. He was promised a safe conduct to attend but still got burnt at the stake! Hope Nick gets back safe and sound. Knock it to 'em, Nick! British climate skeptic on EU Copenhagen team - <a href="http://tinyurl.com/yhw4lls" target="_blank">http://tinyurl.com/yhw4lls</a> Great to hear that Nick Griffin will be representing the EU at the Copenhagen climate change conference as a doubter and heretic.

"In a speech to the European Parliament last week Mr Griffin claimed those who warned of climate change were "anti-western intellectual cranks" and described climate change as "a secular religious hysteria"." (BNP leader to attend Copenhagen climate conference – http://tinyurl.com/y9lg652 )

Reminds of the Bohemian reformer and critic of ecclesiastical correctness John Hus at the Council of Constance. He was promised a safe conduct to attend but still got burnt at the stake! Hope Nick gets back safe and sound. Knock it to 'em, Nick!

British climate skeptic on EU Copenhagen team – http://tinyurl.com/yhw4lls

]]> By: mjcarter http://bnp.org.uk/2009/11/the-real-%e2%80%9cclimate-change%e2%80%9d-agenda-emerges-hand-over-billions-to-the-third-world/comment-page-2/#comment-325031 mjcarter Sun, 29 Nov 2009 15:40:38 +0000 http://bnp.org.uk/?p=23905#comment-325031 What percent of warming is caused by humans? what proportion? This is the issue. If the basic knowledge input to the climate debate is to be credible, it must say what proportion of temperature rise in the last 50, 100, 150 years is due to human activity and what proportion is due to extraterrestrial factors that have determined our environment over many millions of years and totally beyond our ability to influence. If we are to follow this 'idea whose time has come' [vide Hugo] we must hear this information from real scientists who have the real basic knowledge to address this thing. What percent of warming is caused by humans? what proportion?

This is the issue. If the basic knowledge input to the climate debate is to be credible, it must say what proportion of temperature rise in the last 50, 100, 150 years is due to human activity and what proportion is due to extraterrestrial factors that have determined our environment over many millions of years and totally beyond our ability to influence.

If we are to follow this 'idea whose time has come' [vide Hugo] we must hear this information from real scientists who have the real basic knowledge to address this thing.

]]> By: Peter Gun http://bnp.org.uk/2009/11/the-real-%e2%80%9cclimate-change%e2%80%9d-agenda-emerges-hand-over-billions-to-the-third-world/comment-page-1/#comment-325021 Peter Gun Sun, 29 Nov 2009 15:10:21 +0000 http://bnp.org.uk/?p=23905#comment-325021 Correction ... `because it was `given away at least times', should have been `because it was `given away' at leat three times. Apologies to all. Correction … `because it was `given away at least times', should have been `because it was `given away' at leat three times.

Apologies to all.

]]> By: MrMikey http://bnp.org.uk/2009/11/the-real-%e2%80%9cclimate-change%e2%80%9d-agenda-emerges-hand-over-billions-to-the-third-world/comment-page-2/#comment-325014 MrMikey Sun, 29 Nov 2009 14:13:18 +0000 http://bnp.org.uk/?p=23905#comment-325014 Just in - BBC World is reporting that Australia (or was it NZ) are developing low-fart sheep. Of course this is to help with global warming. Just in – BBC World is reporting that Australia (or was it NZ) are developing low-fart sheep. Of course this is to help with global warming.

]]> By: alex c http://bnp.org.uk/2009/11/the-real-%e2%80%9cclimate-change%e2%80%9d-agenda-emerges-hand-over-billions-to-the-third-world/comment-page-2/#comment-324998 alex c Sun, 29 Nov 2009 13:33:23 +0000 http://bnp.org.uk/?p=23905#comment-324998 disgrace, i want NO moneys, not a penny, to be given to anyone, but british tax payers. we are in debt, other third world countries have been let of debts, scrapped allowence re-payments, and general letting off the hook are china going to let us off out 40 billion hook.NO. all this time i though the government have been spending (dwindling) their money on the arms and research and the MOD. now, this war has brought to light that actually, the soilders DONT have the best stuff, tanks or viechles.. SO, WHERE HAS IT GONE (our taxx money) il tel you where its gone to places like this 800 million,,, i have no job, i need one, people in my neighborhood cant afford heating, shoes and socks for their kids to go to school and bare scrape a meal together every night for the family. family life is what britian is about, it not about giving all our hard earned precious money to third world countries.,..that do NOTHING but invade ours.... POWER TO FARMERS. without them we would be in deep dodo. disgrace, i want NO moneys, not a penny, to be given to anyone, but british tax payers.

we are in debt, other third world countries have been let of debts, scrapped allowence re-payments, and general letting off the hook are china going to let us off out 40 billion hook.NO.

all this time i though the government have been spending (dwindling) their money on the arms and research and the MOD. now, this war has brought to light that actually, the soilders DONT have the best stuff, tanks or viechles..

SO, WHERE HAS IT GONE (our taxx money)

il tel you where its gone to places like this 800 million,,, i have no job, i need one, people in my neighborhood cant afford heating, shoes and socks for their kids to go to school and bare scrape a meal together every night for the family.

family life is what britian is about, it not about giving all our hard earned precious money to third world countries.,..that do NOTHING but invade ours….

POWER TO FARMERS. without them we would be in deep dodo.

]]> By: saxonianboy http://bnp.org.uk/2009/11/the-real-%e2%80%9cclimate-change%e2%80%9d-agenda-emerges-hand-over-billions-to-the-third-world/comment-page-2/#comment-324992 saxonianboy Sun, 29 Nov 2009 13:11:17 +0000 http://bnp.org.uk/?p=23905#comment-324992 The whole world can see what this prat has done to UK. Why do they even listen to his drivel??? The whole world can see what this prat has done to UK. Why do they even listen to his drivel???

]]> By: hughie_s http://bnp.org.uk/2009/11/the-real-%e2%80%9cclimate-change%e2%80%9d-agenda-emerges-hand-over-billions-to-the-third-world/comment-page-2/#comment-324986 hughie_s Sun, 29 Nov 2009 12:50:29 +0000 http://bnp.org.uk/?p=23905#comment-324986 Congratulations Nick on your promotion from the European League to the World League. BNP leader Nick Griffin to represent Europe at climate talks <a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1231792/BNP-leader-Nick-Griffin-represent-Europe-climate-talks.html" target="_blank">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1231792/B...</a> Congratulations Nick on your promotion from the European League to the World League.

BNP leader Nick Griffin to represent Europe at climate talks

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1231792/B...

]]> By: Blaidd_Runner http://bnp.org.uk/2009/11/the-real-%e2%80%9cclimate-change%e2%80%9d-agenda-emerges-hand-over-billions-to-the-third-world/comment-page-1/#comment-324975 Blaidd_Runner Sun, 29 Nov 2009 12:05:56 +0000 http://bnp.org.uk/?p=23905#comment-324975 I haven't but I'll look out for it. Thanks. I haven't but I'll look out for it. Thanks.

]]> By: KEVMOR46 http://bnp.org.uk/2009/11/the-real-%e2%80%9cclimate-change%e2%80%9d-agenda-emerges-hand-over-billions-to-the-third-world/comment-page-2/#comment-324957 KEVMOR46 Sun, 29 Nov 2009 11:14:55 +0000 http://bnp.org.uk/?p=23905#comment-324957 What makes me laugh is this if we are giving away £800 million away to these third world despots, so why does Gordon Braun say we are an industrialised country when he has destroyed everything we produce and give it away to foriegn investors. We are not a industrial country anymore, we become a shambolic public sector nation, full of immigrants. What makes me laugh is this if we are giving away £800 million away to these third world despots, so why does Gordon Braun say we are an industrialised country when he has destroyed everything we produce and give it away to foriegn investors. We are not a industrial country anymore, we become a shambolic public sector nation, full of immigrants.

]]> By: EnglishLady http://bnp.org.uk/2009/11/the-real-%e2%80%9cclimate-change%e2%80%9d-agenda-emerges-hand-over-billions-to-the-third-world/comment-page-1/#comment-324930 EnglishLady Sun, 29 Nov 2009 09:38:57 +0000 http://bnp.org.uk/?p=23905#comment-324930 True NGU and I think they keep the poor poor in their countries for the sole purpose to use them as a tool to gain more finance from the western world! it shouldn't be alllowed. True NGU and I think they keep the poor poor in their countries for the sole purpose to use them as a tool to gain more finance from the western world! it shouldn't be alllowed.

]]> By: warren peas http://bnp.org.uk/2009/11/the-real-%e2%80%9cclimate-change%e2%80%9d-agenda-emerges-hand-over-billions-to-the-third-world/comment-page-2/#comment-324913 warren peas Sun, 29 Nov 2009 08:36:44 +0000 http://bnp.org.uk/?p=23905#comment-324913 Speaking as a simple minded taxpayer I would like to ask our spendthrift government one simple question as I am supposed to provide money for it. How do poor unindustrialised countries contribute to so-called carbon emmissions? I have obviously been led up the garden path being told that it was caused by the industrialised countries of China and the West! Speaking as a simple minded taxpayer I would like to ask our spendthrift government one simple question as I am supposed to provide money for it. How do poor unindustrialised countries contribute to so-called carbon emmissions? I have obviously been led up the garden path being told that it was caused by the industrialised countries of China and the West!

]]> By: Peter Gun http://bnp.org.uk/2009/11/the-real-%e2%80%9cclimate-change%e2%80%9d-agenda-emerges-hand-over-billions-to-the-third-world/comment-page-1/#comment-324889 Peter Gun Sun, 29 Nov 2009 02:58:19 +0000 http://bnp.org.uk/?p=23905#comment-324889 Duchess, you were probably not born or too young in the 1970s to know that all the major British banks were the main cause for the destruction of the Amazon rain forest and other South American rain forests, when they gave many South American countries hundreds-of-£millions of unsecured loans, ostensibly for building the social infra-structure, such as schools, colleges, hospitals, affordable housing, etc., and paying for the man-power and equipment for building these noble projects, and for the teachers, lecturers and doctors ... but this never happened ... what did happen was all these countries promptly used the money for buying battalians of massive earth-movers and massive tree-felling and logging machinery and began mowing-down their rain forest and building super highways criss-crossing remaining forests. Got your sick bucket? ... this is the nux of the story, none of those countries fully repaid the loans, and to recover their money our banks introduced banking charges unheard of before, and soon hiked them through the roof ... one avoided passing wind in a bank for fear of receving a letter demanding air-conditioning costs ... our banks being deep in the schizzen is no novelty to them ... they've been there before. Duchess, you were probably not born or too young in the 1970s to know that all the major British banks were the main cause for the destruction of the Amazon rain forest and other South American rain forests, when they gave many South American countries hundreds-of-£millions of unsecured loans, ostensibly for building the social infra-structure, such as schools, colleges, hospitals, affordable housing, etc., and paying for the man-power and equipment for building these noble projects, and for the teachers, lecturers and doctors … but this never happened … what did happen was all these countries promptly used the money for buying battalians of massive earth-movers and massive tree-felling and logging machinery and began mowing-down their rain forest and building super highways criss-crossing remaining forests. Got your sick bucket? … this is the nux of the story, none of those countries fully repaid the loans, and to recover their money our banks introduced banking charges unheard of before, and soon hiked them through the roof … one avoided passing wind in a bank for fear of receving a letter demanding air-conditioning costs … our banks being deep in the schizzen is no novelty to them … they've been there before.

]]> By: crashtestdhimmi http://bnp.org.uk/2009/11/the-real-%e2%80%9cclimate-change%e2%80%9d-agenda-emerges-hand-over-billions-to-the-third-world/comment-page-2/#comment-324866 crashtestdhimmi Sun, 29 Nov 2009 00:52:04 +0000 http://bnp.org.uk/?p=23905#comment-324866 Mike- the most depressing thing I hear a lot over here is " I'm off to Oz".. the sheeple here have no idea that you guys are facing the same rubbish that we live with. Brown and co. tell us that they are putting 'an Australian style points system in place'...most Poms think that means no Dodgy immigrants...unaware that Krudd has altered it so that you have a U.K. type immigration policy......i.e anybody that is useless for you and your country.....lots of luck mate! Mike- the most depressing thing I hear a lot over here is " I'm off to Oz".. the sheeple here have no idea that you guys are facing the same rubbish that we live with. Brown and co. tell us that they are putting 'an Australian style points system in place'…most Poms think that means no Dodgy immigrants…unaware that Krudd has altered it so that you have a U.K. type immigration policy……i.e anybody that is useless for you and your country…..lots of luck mate!

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