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What on Earth? Who are these unelected “delivery partners” and “senior partners”? Sounds like more Common Purpose post-democratic pushing for leadership in areas never before probed by the political elite and social engineering of the most Dambusting kind.

http://www.everychildmatters.gov.uk/health/teenagepregnancy/tpiag/

http://www.everychildmatters.gov.uk/health/teenagepregnancy/about/

Tom Watson’s Blog from where I got the Links, someone asking why are we teaching children as young as 5 about sex when we know it will only arouse interest in sex at an early age and cause teenage pregnancies.

He almost got there.

http://tomcharris.wordpress.com/2008/07/18/so-absurd-it-cant-be-true-can-it/

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This too – http://www.tpuc.org/node/151 – Ed

I meant to comment on your post earlier, but anyway brilliant. Turkey has alway been a very convenient portal between Asia and Europe, which is why the Ionian Greeks who originally lived there were able to introduce the West to their civilisation a couple of thousand years ago. Its spread eastward was cut short with the failure of Alexander’s empire but the Romans brought it to Italy and from there it spread northwards and westwards through Europe.

What has Islam brought us from the same geographical site, on the other hand? Nothing but warfare and enslavement of mind and body. We were all given due warning of the intentions of Muhammad and his followers in 628 when he wrote letters to all the rulers of the Earth including the East Roman Emperor Heraclius, Chosroes II of Persia and as far east as China, with the instruction “Fight the unbelievers who are near to you”. In 630 he took Mecca with the sword and it has been unsheathed ever since, beginning with sporadic raids across the frontiers of the Byzantine empire of the Roman East, and the taking of the Syria, Persia, Palestine and Egypt, when the great book-copying industry of the Alexandrian Library was destroyed. They then invaded Rhodes and sold the Colossus as scrap metal to a Syrian Jewish merchant from Emesa. They took Afghanistan in 664 and attacked Constantinople in 668 but failed to take the city even after a siege of 5 years. The caliph of Damascus Walid conquered Spain. (Gibraltar actually comes from Jebel al-Tariq, the mount of Tariq, from the Berber leader of the Moors who led the invasion into Spain in 711.) When Walid died in 715, he ruled an Islamic empire that stretched from the Pyrenees to China. In 731 more Muslims invaded Gaul and burnt the French town of Autun and it was under this pressure that the people of Europe first used the term “European”, in a Spanish chronicle of that time. Charles Martel managed to crush them at the Battle of Tours (Poitiers) the following year. Christians were being persecuted in Spain when Charlemagne with his knight Roland were soundly defeated by the Moors at the Battle of Roncesvalles in the Pyrenees in 778. By the end of the century there were Arab incursions into Narbonne. In 827 Muslims invaded Sicily and 50 years later they were in southern Italy, establishing themselves in the Garigliano valley between Rome and Naples and by 900 the Arab conquest of the Balearic Isles was nearing completion. In 980 Muslims were destroying the northern Spanish cities of Barcelona, Coimbra, Leon and Santiago de Compostela and in 996 Al-Hakim the Mad of Egypt was ordering the destruction of the Holy Sepulchre in Jerusalem, thus provoking the Crusades. And all this before the year 1000. Now they are not proceeding quite so blatantly, but the results in terms of destruction of culture and domination of the European peoples are the same. You are right, we need to rally behind Nick Griffin and the banner of the BNP to take back what is rightfully ours.

Not only will we be paying billions annually to drag this country to anywhere near a semblance of “EU normality”, -(and I use that word as loosely as possible) but we will have enabled a massive Islamic voting bloc (which by virtue of its huge numbers alone) will have a huge impact on our laws and future.

It will also be the no. 1 point of unfettered entry by any and all Islamics from Arabia and the Indian subcontinent. I mean do you honestly think an Islamic dominated country like Turkey will turn away its Islamic brothers, when their real agenda is the domination of Europe by Islam from mass immigration and breeding?

Once the EUSSR allow Turkey to join and when the Lisbon Treaty is fully ratified, it will be many, many times harder to reverse this tide of Islamo-Marxist domination. I would estimate we have an ever decreasing window of apx. 20 years before it’s just too late.

Neo-Socialism and Islam! Perhaps the world’s two most heinous political thought processes in action….running your life very soon!

Yes, we know what this means, but because of its imperialist, warmongering and wanton blood-letting nature, it is wholly justified to rid the world of this scourge once and for all which inevitably means its adherents, by any and every means necessary.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=QJxiGK2rycE&feature=related
http://uk.search.yahoo.com/search?p=The+1922+massacre+in+Smyrna%2C&ei=UTF-8&fr=moz2

http://uk.search.yahoo.com/search?p=The+1922+massacre+in+Smyrna%2C&ei=UTF-8&fr=moz2

Welcome to the BNP website Brianne. An alliance with Russia certainly merits consideration - Ed

Holding the present population responsible for the past is wrong – agreed. However, Islam has not halted jihad by the sword – it clearly has not (and never has). In Thailand the Thai’s (being compassionate) allowed Muslim immigrants into their country because they were suffering in Malaysia. Today these same poor Muslim immigrants are murdering the Thai population, burning schools, attacking peace-loving Buddhists. Now they are demanding a separate state for themselves – a separate Islamic state stolen from Thailand! So who would you blame for that? The Thais?

The one thing common to all Islamc cultures is their loathing for all non-Islamic cultures, religions and Western values like freedom. In my opinion (my personal opinion), Islamic immigration should be halted immediately and Islam de-classified as a religion (since it is clearly far more than that).

Islam should be reduced to a religion of the home and all Islamic influence removed from Britain and Europe. That means halal, sharia, mosques, burka, etc. (again, my opinion)

I was not born in an Islamic country, and I have no desire for my country to become one. Yet our traiterous politicians and the EU feel they are entitled to Islamize my country without any consultation or even a mandate.

If Turkey joins the EU it will be an unmitigated disaster for Europe. It would, most likely, spell an end to European culture within a decade.

However, you must bear in mind, the predominant religion of Turkey is Islam and has been for getting on, a thousand years. True, Turkey has been officially secular for nearly a century, but the die-hard Turkish adherents of Islam have also spent that same time span feverishly trying to overturn that secular state and will succeed through being numerically bolstered by the millions of non-Turkish Muslim immigrants granted entry into the whole of Europe over the course of the last sixty years unless the indigenous peoples of Europe start voting for patriotic indigenous ethnic parties exclusively and across the board.

Turks are not Europeans nor is Turkey part of Europe. The three percent of the landmass of Turkey that protrudes into Europe, is still populated by what are an Asiatic race of people, albeit a section of that population being of mixed white European/Asian stock, also.

If it came to a war between them and non-Muslims once again, Turks would revert to type, ie, wreaking savagery and barbarism upon Christians and non-Christians alike.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mustafa_Kemal_Atat%C3%BCrk
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_Turkey

Mustafa Kemal, the founder of secular Turkey was, almost certainly, of part white European background descended from a Janissary, no doubt.

Read The Janissaries: the “stolen European children” became the Ottoman elite

http://www.wikiislam.com/wiki/History_of_Jihad_Against_the_Bulgarians#The_Turks_delusion_about_themselves_being_Europeans_and_their_false_case_for_admission_into_the_EU

I am also under no ilusion as to the dominatory nature of Islam. You only have to visit St Sophia in Istanbul , once the Second Church in Chritianity, to realise what the ultimate goal is.

What I am trying to get folks to avoid is giving our enemies any ammunition to use against us. By constantly harping on about Islam we are, I think, in danger of falling foul of the specially introduced “laws” that Labour are so fond of using to stifle debate.

As to the “numbers game” I still stand by my views. Think about it , why should 300,000 dead be “worse” than 3000. It depends on a lot of factors, how many were doing the killing , for example.Was it 1 each ? 10 each ?
My point is that we should stand up and condem ANY such slaughter, wether it be 1 or 1 million. Those large numbers are bandied about to make us feel that it in someone more deplorable.

Finally, I believe we should learn from history but not hold people alive today responsible for the misdeeds of the past.
That’s what the “slave trade” activists want to do. I don’t hold a grudge against Italians for what they did to my dad in a P.O.W. camp in the war ( neither did he,being English, we are better than that), neither do we hold today’s Germans responsible for what happened in WWII.

I agree that the Turks have plenty of past “form”, however they have, more recently, proved good allies too. I’m only trying to be fair here.

History shows us what happened in the past…it is a guide to what is likely to happen in the future unless something fundamental changes. Islam is responsible for millions of deaths throughout Asia, the Middle East and the rest of the world – Islam has been spread by the sword for 1400 years and it is still being spread this way today (look at the on-going conflicts in the world – over 90% of them involve Muslims against someone else).

Muslims don’t particularly care whether Islam is spread by the sword or by any other means – so long as it is spread. And it IS spreading. It is spreading in this country, it is speading throughout Europe and America – and wherever Muslims have the power to take power by force they do so. History has shown us that, and it is still showing us today.

I believe Fance will be the first European nation to fall to Islam. It’s isn’t a question of if, but when. And why is this happening? It is all happening because (nice, well meaning) people like you refuse to learn from history. Our government is doing the same, and so are the UN and the EU.

If we can’t learn from history we are doomed to repeat it – and believe me, we are repeating it. Smyrna, Bosnia, Kosovo, Southern Thailand – all failed to learn from history and now they are plagued by the death cult that is Islam. Muslims aren’t victims, they are the aggressors.

Turks, like all Muslims, believe their religion was sent to dominate over all other religions. Turks may smile and be pleasant to tourists, but they believe their religion entitles them to dominance over you. So, unless you want to become a Muslim and “ascend” to their level, perhaps you should start thinking of ways to learn from history.

I suggest you go and read the Qur’an and a book like “Sword of the Prophet” by Serge Trofkovic – then you’ll see what Islam has done and continues to do.

But never fear, there is a solution: stop the EU, stop voting for the liblabcon lie – and start supporting the only British party which can save our British way of life and identity.

Littleboy – the idea one death is as bad as 300,000 sounds good oratory, and has some backing e.g. from Christians who think a soul is of infinite value, but most people I hope regard it as wrong.

EU No Thanks!

Just for the record :~
When was Turkey in the British Empire ?
It is not in Europe.
Alternatively, if it is so dangerous and life threatening there, and 1,000s have to flee through 10 countries to set up home here, Why are they being allowed in to join the EUssr ?
Whoever next for membership–Zimbabwe ?

I would hate to see the party condemmed as terrorists like those evil Icelanders were.

Also, one should avoid dragging up old history. The massacres in Turkey are disputed ( but probably happened) and besides there is hardly a major European country ( except, ironically Iceland) with an unblemished record. Even we have some blood on our hands.

The numbers are irrelevant. One unjust death is as bad as 300,000, in my view. I would take Grivas’s estimates with a large pinch of salt, for example, he had his own agenda.

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Noted, thanks – Ed

We also came across people (mainly Kurds) terrified of their own government’s soldiers who had to have armed escorts in the area around Van.

I like and admire the Turks, on the whole they are good people but then again, I like and admire elephants and I wouldn’t want one of them in my back yard.