Children Given Detention For Refusing To Kneel Down In Class And Pray To Allah!

July 4, 2008 by News Team
Filed under National News

Schoolboys punished with detention for refusing to kneel in class and pray to Allah

Alsager School, near Stoke, has received furious complaints from parents after two Year 7 boys were punished for refusing to kneel to Allah during a religious studies class

Two schoolboys were given detention after refusing to kneel down and ‘pray to Allah’ during a religious education lesson.

Parents were outraged that the two boys from year seven (11 to 12-year-olds) were punished for not wanting to take part in the practical demonstration of how Allah is worshipped.

They said forcing their children to take part in the exercise at Alsager High School, near Stoke-on-Trent - which included wearing Muslim headgear - was a breach of their human rights.
Alsager School

One parent, Sharon Luinen, said: “This isn’t right, it’s taking things too far.

“I understand that they have to learn about other religions. I can live with that but it is taking it a step too far to be punished because they wouldn’t join in Muslim prayer.

“Making them pray to Allah, who isn’t who they worship, is wrong and what got me is that they were told they were being disrespectful.

“I don’t want this to look as if I have a problem with the school because I am generally very happy with it.”

Another parent Karen Williams said: “I am absolutely furious my daughter was made to take part in it and I don’t find it acceptable.

“I haven’t got a problem with them teaching my child other religions and a small amount of information doesn’t do any harm.

“But not only did they have to pray, the teacher had gone into the class and made them watch a short film and then said ‘we are now going out to pray to Allah’.

“Then two boys got detention and all the other children missed their refreshment break because of the teacher.

“Not only was it forced upon them, my daughter was told off for not doing it right.

“They’d never done it before and they were supposed to do it in another language.”

“My child has been forced to pray to Allah in a school lesson.” The grandfather of one of the pupils in the class said: “It’s absolutely disgusting, there’s no other way of putting it.

“My daughter and a lot of other mothers are furious about their children being made to kneel on the floor and pray to Islam. If they didn’t do it they were given detention.

“I am not racist, I’ve been friendly with an Indian for 30 years. I’ve also been to a Muslim wedding where it was explained to me that alcohol would not be served and I respected that.

“But if Muslims were asked to go to church on Sunday and take Holy Communion there would be war.”

Parents said that their children were made to bend down on their knees on prayer mats which the RE teacher had got out of her cupboard and they were also told to wear Islamic headgear during the lesson on Tuesday afternoon.

Deputy headmaster Keith Plant said: “It’s difficult to know at the moment whether this was part of the curriculum or not. I am not an RE teacher, I am an English teacher.

“At the moment it is our enterprise week and many of our members of staff are away.

“The particular member of staff you need to speak to isn’t around. I think that it is a shame that so many parents have got in touch with the Press before coming to me.

“I have spoken to the teacher and she has articulately given me her version of events, but that is all I can give you at the moment.”

A statement from Cheshire County Council on behalf of the school read: “The headteacher David Black contacted this authority immediately complaints were received.

“Enquiries are being made into the circumstances as a matter of urgency and all parents will be informed accordingly.

“Educating children in the beliefs of different faith is part of the diversity curriculum on the basis that knowledge is essential to understanding.

“We accept that such teaching is to be conducted with some sense of sensitivity.”

Article from Daily Mail on-line

If you wish to make your feelings known to the school - politely please - the contact details are below:

David Black, Head Master

Alsager School

Hassall Road
Alsager
Stoke On Trent
England
ST7 2HR

Telephone: 01270 871100

Fax: 01270 871139

mailto:admin@alsagerschool.co.uk

Or, if you’d prefer to complain directly to Cheshire county council, the contact details are as follows:

Joan Feenan

Director of Children’s Services

Phone: 01244 972201 Fax: 01244 973821
Email: joan.feenan@cheshire.gov.uk
County Hall, Chester, Cheshire CH1 1SQ

	Cheshire County Council County Hall Chester, Cheshire CH1 1SF
	Email: info@cheshire.gov.uk
	www.cheshire.gov.uk
	24 Hour Tel: 0845 11 333 11

Tags: BNP, GLA, Islam, MP, Muslim, Racist, Sharia, Tory

94 Responses to “Children Given Detention For Refusing To Kneel Down In Class And Pray To Allah!”

Stefcho on July 4th, 2008 5:42 pm

If they made my child pray to Allah (satan) I’d sue the council.

It’s bad enough that Islam is treated as the most important religion in the school curriculum, but forcing kids to do Islamic prayers is perverse.

I hope they choose to sue the council.
Paganpete on July 4th, 2008 5:47 pm

No problem Ed - I had to get the news out - this is WAY too important - what happens next time, at your kids school? What happens in 10 years time if it’s compulusory? What happens in 40 years time when we as a nation are no longer here? The rot MUST STOP, and it must stop NOW!
JIM GREEN on July 4th, 2008 5:50 pm

Common Purpose at it again. This teacher should be sacked.
essemess on July 4th, 2008 5:54 pm

I’m absolutely seething over this. I’ve already contacted my children’s schools, pointing them in the direction of the story, to ask if they have any plans to do anything similar.

Fortunately, my son is switched on to the dangers of this death cult and would have been joining the other boys in detention. After asking some interesting questions about Allah and his views on child brides, beheadings, subjugation of women and why Muslims consider Jews and Christians as pigs and monkeys.
Mister J on July 4th, 2008 5:55 pm

This is appalling beyond words. Well done to the children who refused!
The Red Badge of Courage on July 4th, 2008 5:59 pm

“I have spoken to the teacher and she has articulately given me her version of events…” - this from an English teacher?!!!
Tony on July 4th, 2008 5:59 pm

The two schoolboys should be rewarded for bravery in the face of the enemy.
White Lion on July 4th, 2008 6:00 pm

A MAJOR reason why Stoke-on -Trent NEEDS a BNP council…along with EVERYWHERE else-March on BNP
White Lion on July 4th, 2008 6:01 pm

P.S. It’s a good job my kids don’t go there!
PJD on July 4th, 2008 6:08 pm

In contrast to the Deputy Head, I salute the parents who went to the press about this disgraceful affair. The mealy-mouthed half excuses he trots out speak loud and clear that parents could have no confidence in him to correct or even address such a blatant abuse by his staff. How convenient that the teacher in question “isn’t around” — let’s hope she won’t be around permanently in education to poison young minds further. I hope parents will press the Education Authority for full satisfaction on this school’s curriculum and staff.
bertie bert on July 4th, 2008 6:11 pm

Let’s just say, if it was the other way round, a class of Muslim children having to enact a nativity play, it would be considered a hate crime and the compensation (jizya tax) claims would be never-ending.

The more you think about it, the more absurd it becomes, like Muslims complain that a puppy used on a police advert was offensive and against Islam.

Oh and should any non-Muslim voice concern or an opinion, out comes the cry of Islamophobia. Well, a phobia is an irrational fear.

When you look at Islamic countries and what sharia laws are used for, any sane person would be against it.

Muslim councillor Hasina Khan: I will not let male bigots win.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article4258052.ece
Artorius on July 4th, 2008 6:14 pm

This kind of thing is all too common. Role play is a favourite method of Da’wa (Muslim propaganda) in schools and has been going on in a low-key way for some years, both here and in the States. It is to be hoped that the publicity surrounding this example of coercive Satanic abuse will bring this practice of classroom demonolatry to the attention of the public:

http://barnsley-nationalists3.blogspot.com/2007/10/jihadists-want-our-kids-dead-or-alive.html
Vman on July 4th, 2008 6:17 pm

Take it easy, Tiger. We understand your anger - but it is stories such as this which awaken the electorate. -Ed
woody1456 on July 4th, 2008 6:22 pm

This is ISLAM at its worst again! Religion should be offered and not forced upon any individual! Imagine the scenario if this happened to a Muslim being forced to worship God or pray to Jesus? The proverbial would hit the fan at lightning speed!

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I think we ought to ask Muslim children to recite The Nicene Creed:
http://www.reformed.org/documents/nicene.html -Ed
Brin Jenkins on July 4th, 2008 6:22 pm

We must stop this and now, can some one go to this School and put them right? If you pray to Allah, you are in effect becoming Islamic.

If you do not believe in Islam, how you can you pray to him?

Brin
Shropshire Lass on July 4th, 2008 6:22 pm

I wonder if part of the curriculum for Muslim children might be to take Holy Communion? I suspect there would probably be a few church-burnings or pastor-beatings in response to such an action…
Alanorei on July 4th, 2008 6:26 pm

One of these days, one of these pro-Islamic educationalists is going to slag off the 1611 King James Bible.

Then all good BNPrs should retire to a safe distance and watch the Lion of the English Protestant Reformation do his stuff.

(Though it won’t be suitable viewing for the squeamish.)

Unlike the one that swallowed ‘yoong Albert’ (for those old enough to remember), this one has a full set of real teeth and razor-sharp claws to match. Read Hebrews 4:12.
Artorius on July 4th, 2008 6:33 pm

This is the extremely sinster bit: “Not only was it forced upon them, my daughter was told off for not doing it right. They’d never done it before and they were supposed to do it in another language.” “My child has been forced to pray to Allah in a school lesson.” The grandfather of one of the pupils in the class said: “It’s absolutely disgusting, there’s no other way of putting it.

If these children have actually recited a particular Arabic sentence known as the ‘Shahada’, then according to soon-to-be-introduced Shariah they have converted to Islam. And under the Shariah law they must be killed as apostates if they revert to their former faith.

This constitutes child-abuse of the most blatant kind. The teacher involved and the headteacher must be sacked and never be allowed to work with children again.
ianpenrhyndd on July 4th, 2008 6:39 pm

Let us congratulate the BRAVE CHILDREN who had guts to stand up against a person that should not be a teacher.

I would suggest that the children in question are invited to a BNP function and formaly congratulated.

The school in question deserves a protest and the Head Teacher and the female RE teacher humiliated.

Let us make the profile of the BNP much higher in Alsager.
Robert Stewart on July 4th, 2008 6:40 pm

Does any one know the religion or nationality of the R E teacher involved?

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This comment, by one of the parents, might tell you: She added: “Not only was it forced upon them, my daughter was told off for not doing it right”. -Ed
Ian35 on July 4th, 2008 6:55 pm

Spot on White Lion - Have you seen the local news over the last few days??

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/staffordshire/7489983.stm

20 year ago I had just left this school, now I’m just in shock.

…although strictly speaking this school is governed by the Congleton borough council, not the Stoke-on-Trent council, the town of Alsager only comes under Stoke-on-Trent simply as it uses a Stoke post-code, not a Crewe or Congleton denomination.
Brigantes on July 4th, 2008 7:05 pm

These people have to force their sick ideologies on people as it is the only way they can get them over, either Islam, homosexuality in schools or multiculturalism–all have been forced on people but they will have to face the backlash sooner or later, hopefully sooner.
Ian35 on July 4th, 2008 7:11 pm

Ed wrote.. -
I think we ought to ask Muslim children to recite The Nicene Creed:

or perhaps we should adopt the idea of our american cousins, place a Union Jack in the corner & have the kids “Pledge alegience” to Queen & Country & to ask God to bless Great Britain. If our ethnic brethren don’t like it or refuse on relirgious grounds, well i suppose you could put them into detention.
Shropshire Lass on July 4th, 2008 7:18 pm

Robstew, the teacher’s name doesn’t sound Asian, but her actions sound like those of a convertee proselytising to children. What sort of teacher has Islamic head-dresses and prayer-mats in her cupboard?
hughie_s on July 4th, 2008 7:19 pm

Own goal by PC Utd I think.

Convention for the Protection of Human Rights and Fundamental Freedoms as amended by Protocol No. 11

Article 9 – Freedom of thought, conscience and religion
Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief and freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief, in worship, teaching, practice and observance.
Freedom to manifest one’s religion or beliefs shall be subject only to such limitations as are prescribed by law and are necessary in a democratic society in the interests of public safety, for the protection of public order, health or morals, or for the protection of the rights and freedoms of others.

That’s all for this week children. Next week make sure you say goodbye to mummy and daddy before you come to school, it’s suicide bomb making class.
realmoney on July 4th, 2008 7:37 pm

Nothing less than a horror story. It IS child abuse, no doubt about it. The twisted Marxist teacher used punishment to enforce her perverted ideas on young children. I know what that adds up to in my book. What I want to know is this: Was the lesson her idea? We really do need to know this. Think about it for a moment.

I salute those pupils who refused to submit to this degradation.
alex_92 on July 4th, 2008 7:45 pm

Is Everyone emailing the school? (I don’t want to be the only one!)

WHAT A DISGRACE!! If I was told to pray to Allah during when I did RE I Certainly wouldn’t have! In fact I would have probably refused to learn about the evil Islamic religion if we did that as a subject.

LET’S MAKE SURE THE SCHOOL GETS HUNDREDS OF EMAILS, just so that they get the picture that giving 2 students detentions FOR NOT PRAYING TO ALLAH is completely unacceptable. (understatement of the century).

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Well, I, for one, have sent my complaint along. By the way, before you send an email, Alex, please use a spell-checker!! -Ed
Winston on July 4th, 2008 7:50 pm

@JIM GREEN ‘Common Purpose at it again. This teacher should be sacked.’ Actually, I was thinking of something more permanent for this ‘teacher’ that cannot be reversed under any circumstances, at any time - ever.

Sacking for the likes of Ray Lewis, the ex Deputy Mayor of London who has just ‘resigned’ over ‘inappropriate behaviour’. Boris does seem to be having some difficulty hanging onto his staff. Actually, something more permanent for Lewis - and even Boris - might also be in order.

I’m just off to pray to my Christian God that ’swift and appropriate action’ is taken against the whole bloody lot of them. Time, place and especially the direction one is facing for Christian prayer is totally irrelevant - although NOT facing Mecca (if one knows where the hell it is) can make one feel good.
Oldfatandloaded on July 4th, 2008 7:50 pm

I may be wrong but i think it’s pretty safe to assume that this was either a Muslim-born teacher or a white Muslim convert trying to indoctrinate children into the ways of Islam and then if all goes well and the English parents fall for it, perhaps a follow-up with the teachings of Allah at a later stage of their religious education.
R.E. in my day used to be the teachings of Christ in this country, now it’s seen as a means to further Islamisation by those with their own hidden agenda.
johnny7 on July 4th, 2008 8:02 pm

woody1456 is quite right. If a Muslim was treated this way there would be crowds of angry “believers” chanting “Death to the Christians!”. It would be on the news with all the so-called “community leaders” complaining about how Islam has been insulted (and the politicians apologising-Ed). The human rights lawyers would be out in force and the so-called “head” would have his head on the block….but wait ….no, it was a white child so no damage done. One thing however I do agree on. We need more detention–detention centres that is, this “enrichment” is getting to rich for my blood.
Ian35 on July 4th, 2008 8:18 pm

Oldfatandloaded said…
“R.E. in my day used to be the teachings of Christ in this country, now it’s seen as a means to further Islamisation by those with their own hidden agenda”.

Do kids these days have proper Assembly, by this I mean a teacher or a guest speaker giving a modern day tale of a bible story, followed by a recital of the Lords Prayer? (You’ve got to be kidding! -Ed)

I know we did when I was in Primary school, but of course when I was a pupil at Alsager School this was replaced with school business (such as: how well the school football team was doing, school raised £XX for the local old folks, that the lunchtime Chess club was cancelled etc)& religion was no longer involved or a prayer said even if someone was dying.

I would imagine it’s still much the same these days at the school & religion is stuck to RE lessons which are no longer compulsory subjects, but option subjects I dare bet.
Angryman on July 4th, 2008 8:19 pm

This is nothing less than child abuse and should be treated as such. Preying on innocent gullible children like this should be stamped upon immediately and the teacher sacked without compensation.
White Rose on July 4th, 2008 8:27 pm

OK, the gloves are off.
ALLAH MISH AHKBAR.
(Allah is not great)
Robert Blatchford on July 4th, 2008 8:50 pm

Probally some dogooding “letfwing” teacher behind this? The type thats hates their own White British culture, but loves that of the third world invaders. This drip feeding of Islam has been going on in our school for years! These traitorous “teachers” will have to answer some day!

OUR TIME IS COMING!
secret squirl on July 4th, 2008 9:13 pm

Obviously as a family man I am shocked and appalled at this latest attempt to persecute our children,erode our rights and push us as a nation, closer to sharia law.How dare they.Personally, I cannot wait to see how the filthy establishment will wriggle out of this one. Also, I have just taken the time to brief my two lads on exactly how to respond, should they be faced with similar circumstances. Just to re-iterate what Ian Penrhyndd said earlier, we should most definitely salute these brave children that stood up to this intolerable bully of a teacher.
keenie-meenie on July 4th, 2008 9:22 pm

just last week i sent my son to school with a letter saying that from this week my sons would not be attending any of you R.E. lessons as it is not part of the school Curriculum and he is not having islam rammed down his throat. and that the school is not a C of E school. i got a call from the school this morning saying that he has to attend. i said no he’s not going.. blar blar blar. he then said that if he don’t attend we must have another course hes got to do in its place. (not true) and supply supervision. ok i said then he’s just enrolled on the Dobbo vespa mechanics course at home for the lesson. he was god smacked and said no it must be of a holy nature. i informed him that our god enrico piaggio was worshiped all around the globe. think i should contact the press? all hail enrico.. Dobbo
EnglandxChick on July 4th, 2008 9:56 pm

Praying to Allah is the same as praying to the devil. Any schools who plan any more ‘trips out to mosques’ should be ashamed of themselves. All non muslim parents and let face it - is most people, need to say no to this sick little outing. Muslims, Islam, Allah and the rest of the nonsense which this warped religon stands for does not belong in this world, let alone in the school classroom. Any schools which have anything to do with Islam on the curriculum are not good schools and need shutting down ASAP.
pat_riot on July 4th, 2008 10:03 pm

I’d like to thank the Ed for publishing the contact details - I will send a dignified message of white hot wrath and fiery indignation to them. But be assured brethren - this act of forcing our children to bow down to a false god (with a lower case ‘g’) has not gone unnoticed by the Great Omnipotent One and will certainly not go unpunished. I will cry unto the Lord to pour out everlasting destruction upon them:

Do not take revenge, my friends, but leave room for God’s wrath, for it is written: “It is mine to avenge; I will repay,” says the Lord. (Romans 12:19)
SheriffofNottingham on July 4th, 2008 10:08 pm

Once again, Artorius is right on the button with his concern at how the schoolmistress might have misused her powers of “taqqiyah” to get the children to “take the pledge” without their realising. Surely, there should be translators on hand to ensure that we all know what we’re getting ourselves into. I found the following video rather disturbing:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WT_0toKlFh4
Graham on July 4th, 2008 10:09 pm

My own children tell me that RE teachers in their schools teach that Islam is a peaceful wonderful tolerant religion. Strangely enough none of the kids seem to believe them and most of them are hostile to Islam even those as young as 10 or 11. I think it is entirely possible that the pro muslim propaganda is having the opposite effect to that intended and many of those subjected to it will become future BNP voters. A few years ago I had to undergo diversity awareness as part of a training course and had to visit a mosque a hindu temple and a sikh temple. Whilst I came away with enhanced respect for the sikh and hindu faiths my visit to the mosque made me and my workmates feel very uncomfortable. I honestly believe our liberal/labour establishment are shootimg themselves in the foot.
Artorius on July 4th, 2008 11:17 pm

“Making them pray to Allah, who isn’t who they worship, is wrong and what got me is that they were told they were being disrespectful.”

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2247388/Schoolboys-disciplined-for-‘refusing-to-pray-to-Allah’.html

DISRESPECTFUL? So according to this teacher, English kids are now supposed to show respect to the demented voices inside the head of a ranting seventh century psychotic murderous paedophile?

If the Prophet Mohammed himself was allowed a day out of hell, and turned up outside the school gates at hometime in his dirty raincoat lusting after the kids, then the teachers would presumably still show respect, because to question why he was there would by waysist and Islamophobic.

These Marxist dhimmi appeasers should go and stuff their prayer mats and Korans where the sun don’t shine.
Valentine Gray on July 4th, 2008 11:26 pm

Apart from Islam being an intellectual “void”, forcing children in an English school to imitate islamic prayer is subliminal aggression, instead of punching these children on the nose the teacher gave them a punch into their cultural sensabilities, this happens when a colonising population attempts to subvert or gain cultural/religious dominance it will use techniques used by all religions, such as hypnoidal chanting with rythmic repetition to sooth and dull the senses to make them malleable to suggestions that go deep into psyche and may surface years later with serious emotional consequences to the pupil (victim) and society, Legal action must be taken against the school for breaching these children’s human rights, if we have the HRA lets make use of it ourselves.
Catmar on July 4th, 2008 11:28 pm

Yes I emailed them so you’re not alone. I totally agree with all the
sentiment in this thread. So nothing further to add.
Renegade on July 4th, 2008 11:46 pm

I have been trying to think how I might have reacted to this when I was 12 years old, although that was a very long time ago, and we knew very little about non-Christian religions at that time. I think I would probably have been too malleable and would have simply done as I was told, knowing no better. So, as many others have remarked, absolutely top marks to those young people at this school who resisted the efforts of this teacher, who tried to use his/her position as an authority figure to browbeat these children into actively taking part in a religious ceremony that is alien to our Christianity-based way of life.

I hope it is made known to these children just how much they are admired for taking a courageous stand like this. I will be getting emails off to both the local authority and the school endorsing the clear sense of public outrage which is being voiced by parents and others. To try and take advantage of the natural naivety of children in this way is despicable.
D. Hounsome on July 4th, 2008 11:47 pm

I’ll wait till I cool down, then fire a fax off to this school.
PC showing it’s ugly face again no doubt about that, and they don’t seem to understand why we get our backs up, what planet are these people on. D.H Auckland.
Alanorei on July 4th, 2008 11:52 pm

My comment to the school, copied to the councillor. It might strike a nerve.

“Dear Sir

“The school is in danger of being perceived as retrogressive in this matter. The last time anything of this sort happened in England was during the short and disgraceful reign of James II, 1685-1688. The Glorious Revolution of 1688 under William III of Orange put an end to this kind of religious coercion.

“You’ve just turned the clock back 300 years.”
ssmithy on July 4th, 2008 11:59 pm

I am absolutely disgusted. Thanks for the emails for the Headmaster and Joan - I’ve already sent my email. But as one person has written, we can be angry but the good news is - it wins more votes for the BNP. Also request to Ed - when appropriate can we have more contact details on stories. Ta
davidn on July 5th, 2008 12:04 am

Absolutely disgusting.
Askari on July 5th, 2008 12:06 am

I share the outrage and horror of all the other posts on this page. What appals me almost as much as the wickedness of this action, is the dhimmitude of several parents as quoted, who say they “have n’t got a problem with their children being taught about other religions”. I do. I do have a problem with Christian children being taught about Islam, whether or not they were made to kneel to the mad moon-god. This dhimmi attitude is typical of what is wrong with so many of our British people; they have become so thoroughly indoctrinated that they cannot see that the beginning of evil is the compulsory teaching, period.
What hope, pray tell me, has this country, when its indigenous peoples are already so far gone that they know not right from wrong? When they cannot recognise their own subservience?
Just yesterday, in another post, I suggested that a link or forum be set up on this website for parents who wish to home-teach, who wish to remove their children from the Common Purpose and Islamo-purpose public schooling system, and teach their kids at home. Now I repeat this call; no, I beg the Party Leadership to heed my plea and encourage British Nationalist parents to remove their children from Islamo-purpose/Common Purpose schools, and pool their resources and teach from home. How are we to begin to fight back if we will not begin to fight where it matters, which is in the education of our children? If parents have a resource on our BNP site which they can draw upon to encourage them in their efforts to home-teach, half the battle will be already won; unless we remove our kids from the System, now, we shall not win against the evil forces seeking to brainwash our children even as - it seems - most of these parents are already half-way brainwashed themselves. British tolerance; bah! This is tolerance taken too far! We are a Christian nation, and we do not wish to be compelled to study “other religions”. The details, whether to kneel or not to kneel, are almost irrelevant.
Dave NE on July 5th, 2008 12:14 am

For 2 young children to have the knowledge and guts that what they were asked to do was against their beliefs and defy the teacher is a breath of fresh air. On the same day one of the top men in the system has said that Sharia law might have a place in English law. Do we live in a Christian land or what, what is going on here, Dave
copperation on July 5th, 2008 12:32 am

Well done to the two kids asserting their independence. I did much a similar thing myself at school.

But how times have changed. In my schoolboy days it wasn’t enforced Islamism addling our brains in religious Education… No, it was mere lesbians and East European prostitutes back then! And when I used to continuously question the relevence and educational value on the ’self-appraisal’ school report forms, the teachers would look at me as if I’d just dropped from a dog’s backside and write in their own box that I wasn’t learning much and deserved low marks!

You can’t beat the Left for twisting reality. I’m just aghast at how many more kids are bent under for every one schoolboy who sees the light and refuses to become another blank mind in the sea of blank faces.
copperation on July 5th, 2008 12:39 am

An additional note to my previous post is that it said it all when things got so bad that I would walk out of RE classes before being sent out. So instead of watching more PC cobblers on the video player each lesson, I’d sit quietly in the corridor and read one of the Bibles which had been banished to an outside cupboard. They probably ended up in a skip long ago.

It says something about RE that in order to get some decent, neutral ethical and moral foundation I had to rebel and be ‘exiled’ to the detention room so I could do it myself.

Let’s get the BNP in government soon so the free-thinkers are not punished, the brainwashed kids de-programmed and the ‘teachers’ responsible for the mindbending sacked and prosecuted.

ACTION THIS DAY!
Ex-pat loyalist on July 5th, 2008 1:55 am

I intend notifying the media here and inform all my British-born friends, too,of this outrage. I watched an episode of the BBC production ‘Spooks’ last night which portrayed a far-Right religious group (Christian) waging a war on the Muslims in Britain and I can well imagine this as ‘art imitating life’ and at the same time entirely credible. Why,why,why, did Britain (and Australia, for that matter) ever let this mob into the country? One saving grace here, though, is that our Government (Labour) did refuse to legislate to recognize polygamous marriages - I was holding my breath over that one but it seems common sense prevailed. Vive la BNP revolution!
enufalready on July 5th, 2008 1:59 am

Islam:What The West Needs To Know!
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-871902797772997781
Stringbag on July 5th, 2008 8:28 am

It is perfectly apparent that we are undergoing an alien colonisation event of alarming rapidity, given high birthrates and the ridiculous level of continuing immigration. Nobody of any pride or worth wants to have his /her country colonised but I am afraid this particular “enrichment” not only has nothing to commend it, it could not be more dangerous to us.

Take a little trip through inner Birmingham, for instance, and one might as well be in Lahore, or increasingly Mogadishu. Black-clad burkha wearers, covered from head to toe, push prams whilst other off-spring trail behind; Halal establishments proliferate; Madrassas abound, aerials vibrate with the Wahhabi message, the young devotees attired in Islamic garb clutch the Koran to their breasts on their way to after-school indocrination, the happy-clappy, multi-culti, mush just served up by the State “education” system simply incomprehensible to them. And the dominance of the “community” looms ever larger:

“InshaAllah the purpose of this project is to provide a large community Mosque and Islamic Library.”

http://www.masjidali.com/overview.html

Whilst lib-lab-con remain in control the future of the indigenous people of this country is very bleak indeed:

“The other important principle is the classic Islamic division of the world into Dar al-Islam (the house of Islam) where Muslims rule and Dar al-Harb (the house of war). The sinister name for non-Muslim territory indicates that Muslims have an obligation to wage war until it becomes Dar al-Islam. There is much debate within Islam today as to whether or not the West is Dar al-Harb. Non-Muslims can be thankful for alternatives such as Dar al-Sulh (House of Truce) and Dar al-‘Ahd (House of Treaty).”

http://www.barnabasfund.org/news/archives/article.php?ID_news_items=110

We should treat the notion of being “thankful” for treaty or truce with a very great deal of circumspection, for they can be broken at will and without warning:

‘The time is fast approaching where the tables are going to turn and the Muslims are going to be in the position of being uppermost in strength and, when that happens, people won’t get killed - unjustly.’………’God help us in our fight against the kaffir, in every field, in every department of life. We beg you to help us fight against the enemies of our religion.’…..’You cannot accept the rule of the kaffir…..We have to rule ourselves and we have to rule the others.’

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2007/jan/07/broadcasting.channel4
Bobby K on July 5th, 2008 8:47 am

Last year, my 12 year-old daughter told me that she had been learning about Islam in her R.E. lessons. I questioned her about what she had been ‘learning’ and then examined her R.E. school work. A very lengthily and very rosey picture of Islam had been portrayed in the R.E. lesson/s - Christianity, Hinduism, Judaism, Buddhism etc had merely been touched upon.

I asked my daughter to ask her R.E. teacher to elaborate on certain aspects of the religion of peace. My daughter politely asked this of her teacher, and was ’shouted down’ in front of her class mates. My daughter is a good student and excels in all of her studies. For some reason though her R.E. homework on Islam (which was very well researched and presented) was marked TRIPLE MINUS by the R.E. teacher!

We must end this diabolical brainwashing and corruption of our children! Each and every one of the rotten establishment who are playing their part in trying to Islamify OUR country, must be held to account for their traitorous actions!

GOD SPEED NICK GRIFFIN AND THE BNP INTO POWER!
Donna Hancock on July 5th, 2008 8:57 am

At ‘enquiries’ here, we received a call a few months ago from a lady who was in tears because her seven year old grandson had been suspended from school as a racist. His ‘crime’? He had refused to make a muslim prayer mat. He told the teacher he didn’t want to do it because he was a Christian, and this was deemed to be disruptive and ‘offensive to other pupils’.
No prizes for guessing which religion these other pupils were.
- BNP Enquiries
redwhite@cross on July 5th, 2008 9:01 am

This is merely stage 1. See
http://alanpetersroundup.blogspot.com/2008/06/saudi-infiltration-of-our-school.html

for Islamic education in full, bloodthirsty flow.

Was the teacher a good dhimmi, or a “good” muslim. We should be told which.
dr dees brainwashing elixir on July 5th, 2008 9:34 am

This teacher is following in the footsteps of the Prophet. See link below from the Muslim apostate Ali Sina.

”Muslims are intolerant, supremacist, bullies, and violent. They are highly inflammable and can explode if they are not treated preferentially and with respect …

At the same time, they abuse others and violate the rights of people of other faiths …

This is psychopathology. To understand Muslims, one must understand their prophet. Muslims worship and emulate Muhammad. Islam is Muhammadanism. Only by understanding him can one know what makes them tick …

Understanding Muhammad is a psychobiography of Allah’s Prophet
He believed he was the most perfect human creation and the universe’s raison d’être. Muhammad was no ordinary man. He was a narcissist”.

http://www.faithfreedom.org/book.htm
Mandala on July 5th, 2008 9:48 am

Kids, I salute you. You have more courage and intelligence than the entire education establishment, and I know one day people like you will be our last best hope for peace.
AgentIron on July 5th, 2008 10:31 am

The thought of school children being made to bend down to islam makes my skin crawl; the fact it was in the name of allah just rubs salt into the wound! I also wonder if the prayer mats and headgear are tax-payer funded or if local muslims have donated them? Either way it ain`t good!
Local muslims have no right interfering in both muslim and non-muslim childrens state education! And surely the school should be spending it`s budget on sports equipment, text books etc, not silly middle east religious articles!

DISGUSTING!!!
sickofitall on July 5th, 2008 10:48 am

alright dobbo (keenie-meenie),
your lad would have been WAY better employed on a sunday sport lambretta fixing coures you know,rather than learning how to sort the old chicken coop …hail frank !!! (in joke ed !)
my kids schools rooting all the red,weak teachers out and replacing them with ex-forces and police,the head of house has a george cross amd his old army uniform on his wall,
AND GUESS WHAT - yes all the kids like and respect the bloke…rocket science again eh!
caz
samba on July 5th, 2008 10:51 am

Alsager in Cheshire we have a good group there, our people want to hound this teacher out of the town. This is one of the most disgusting things I have heard yet. The parents need to take action too, we must never let this kind of thing happen again. We through the pupils must monitor teachers actions like this at all times.
ThePeteman on July 5th, 2008 11:18 am

Wow. Truly wow. That is all I have. If this is happening at this early stage of the Islamic takeover bid, what can we expect in the future? Hanging for not praying properly? Will be stone our children to death in the streets?
Ian35 on July 5th, 2008 11:28 am

What worries me slightly is this is ONE school & ONE reported incident, how many other schools are there teaching these methods where this isn’t being exposed & the kids are just made to take it?.

If this teaching practice is included as a part of the national curriculum these days, i would imagine this is a bigger issue that we could ever of imagined - i’d be interested to hear from an RE teacher to tell us what is on the curriculum & if they think it’s right or wrong.

It also winds me up - offends me in fact - when i drop my stepdaughter off at school in a morning & the Muslim kids seem to wear a different uniform to the rest & things like headgear, jewellery & the like is frowned upon by those who wear the designated school uniform.

Plus isn’t there a law in this country that states vehicles registered as working Taxi’s can only be used as taxi’s & not private cars?? so how come in a morning many seem to get away with being dropped off at school by their parents taxi & this goes ignored?? No doubt if i was a taxi driver & i was taking my kids to school, i’d probably get the book thrown at me & my operators badge ripped up.
This is my country on July 5th, 2008 11:41 am

Following on from the Mails story, I noticed that the Deputy head teacher made the initial comment that, “he had hoped that the parents would have talked to him first before going to the press”.
Why, so that he could have hushed this disgusting incident up?
Am I missing something here as to why muslims are always in the press. Do we hear about Jews, Hindus, Buhhists etc etc screaming and shouting all the time. Or, is it because muslims constantly make the most noise that they get the attention and pandering to. Isn’t it time we English Christians started to make some noise as opposed to always having a bit of a moan and doing nothing proactive?
Lancashire Patriot on July 5th, 2008 11:50 am

How ironic it is that this report should appear on the same day as Peter Oborne’s fawning apologia for Islam in the Daily Mail.

Oborne would have us believe that Muslims are a persecuted and oppressed minority and anyone who disagrees with this analysis is guilty of the crime of “Islamophobia”.

In fact the whole concept of Islamophobia is bogus. A true phobia is an irrational and neurotic fear; there is nothing irrational about fear of Islam, it is a clear and present danger to the survival of western civilisation.

What is remarkable is not that there is popular reaction against Islamic colonisation, but that the establishment are so willing to defer to it. If this continues, we are doomed to the same fate as the Greek-Christian civilisation of North Africa destroyed by the Arabs.

In contrast, the BNP stand almost alone in defying this evil; they are to be commended for it.
Shropshire Lass on July 5th, 2008 11:57 am

This year has seen plenty of promotion of Islam and sharia law in the classroom and in wider society.

Well, I think we’ve got the following to blame:

DIALOGUE WITH ISLAM ‘KEY PART’ OF EUROPEAN CULTURAL YEAR

“Commission spokesperson John Macdonald said that dialogue between Islam and Christianity would be a “key part” of EYID, with the aim of “improving mutual understanding and better living together”.

AND

“Describing intercultural dialogue as a long-term need, Figel said: “Young Europeans need intercultural skills from the tenderest age to help them […] learn how to benefit from Europe’s cultural diversity.” ”

See: http://www.euractiv.com/en/culture/dialogue-islam-key-part-european-intercultural-year/article-169403

Together in Diversity:

http://www.interculturaldialogue2008.eu/354.0.html?&redirect_url=my-startpage-eyid.html

The evils of Common Purpose at work.
ralf on July 5th, 2008 11:58 am

How ironic. Children being forced to pray before the god of a paedophile.
Robert Blatchford on July 5th, 2008 12:04 pm

Surley this traitorous “teacher” should be named and shamed? We should get a picture up on the BNP website and let the Nation see what this ******* looks like?
Anthony on July 5th, 2008 12:11 pm

Muslims who don’t want to integrate into British society should go and live in their mother country. We are sick of listening to their backward religion!
Pagan-revival on July 5th, 2008 2:41 pm

Your rights:

You have a right to withdraw your child from RE if you object to the RE provided by the school in its basic curriculum. You do not have to tell the school why you want to withdraw your child from RE, either in part or wholly, but the school is entitled to ask you, and is recommended by the DfES to find a way that will allow your child to continue participating in RE in their school.

What is clear is that you don’t have a right to withdraw your child from RE in order to do other subjects in the curriculum. The right was established as a conscience clause when RE was Religious Instruction, and that was clearly the intention of Parliament when allowing withdrawal as long ago as 1870, and in later acts of Parliament.

What the school must do:

The school must respect your right to withdraw your child from RE and should not put up barriers to stop you doing so if it is your desire. Schools must also offer you three alternatives:

• alternative RE on the school site;
• alternative RE at another school;
• alternative RE at another place.

None of these options can be at a cost to the school or the Local Authority, and the last two options cannot interfere with a pupils attendance (hence must be at the beginning or end of a school day so as not to cause unnecessary disruption). Where you decide not to access one of these options then the school will supervise your child.

What the school is advised to do:

The Headteacher is encouraged to meet with parents who want to withdraw their child to find out why a parent might wish to withdraw their child. The aim of this meeting is to clarify the nature of RE in the school and to, hopefully, meet parents’ concern with a view to including the child in the school’s RE. The school is also advised to ask parents to provide work for their child based on their own religious or philosophical beliefs. In this way the school is affirming the parents’ right and responsibility to religiously educate their child – here the term religious is being used in a very broad sense and includes philosophical beliefs. To clarify what the school will do parents should ask to see a copy of the school’s RE policy.

Types of withdrawal–there are two types of withdrawal:

• Total withdrawal – where a child is removed from RE completely; and,
• partial withdrawal – where the child is removed from specific aspects of RE in the school.

You have a right to either form of withdrawal, and the school should discuss the options for both.

Learning about religion in school:

It is the case that many curriculum areas cover issues of religion, such as History, Geography, Music, Citizenship, and English among others. Where religion is covered in national curriculum subjects, parents do not have a right to withdraw their child.

__________
Thanks for that explanation. I’m sure many parents will find it extremely helpful and useful.–Ed.
Brian Cosworth on July 5th, 2008 3:12 pm

I will write appropriate emails to the county council regarding this case when I have calmed down enough to be coherent. At the moment I am not even able to make a comment here on my home turf amongst friends that could possibly get by Ed, so I shall hold my tongue.

Is it possible for Sir Richard of London to ask Biffo in the next question time at the London Assembly if he can be clear about the rules in London regarding this sort of thing, and if it is acceptable for Christian children, or children of any faith to be forced against their and their parents’ wishes into kneeling before a false god?
stevie_manion on July 5th, 2008 3:24 pm

I wrote the following:

What Alsager High as done is absolutely disgusting, this teacher should be sacked, and the school fined, this political correctness is crippling our country, when will things stop, distrust is rife throughout england, and things like this makes the british people furious.

i would love to hear what you think to this

kind regards
stevie manion

lets see what there response is, or if they respond at all
the yellow bellied ******
THese will destroy this country if we leave it unchecked.
BNP!!
Britain Unite
Pagan-revival on July 5th, 2008 3:28 pm

Further to the above, BNP members and supporters must understand that the law states you must provide a child with an education, but there is no law in the UK which requires you to send a child to school. Home education is legal in the UK, and a great way for you to install REAL values into your child.

http://www.education-otherwise.org/Legal/IndexToLegalBits.htm

This link is to Education Otherwise’s (UK’s number one home-ed org.) legal page, and details your full rights on withdrawing your children from school, your rights as a parent, and other details such as being stopped by the LEA/police, etc.

I withdrew my eldest child from school after the head teacher tried to force her to recite a Methodist prayer each morning. This came AFTER I had met with the head teacher, and removed my child from RE on the grounds that she was already taught RE at home, and was being raised in the tradition of the early Anglo-Saxon faith of Wodenism. Now I could have taken this further, but like most things, to whom do you complain? The same system! I believe that for any proud English parent, be they Pagan or Christian, then Home Education is the best way to avoid the brainwashing that’s unleashed upon our kids!
Cigpapers on July 5th, 2008 4:01 pm

Let’s make sure these two plucky children are punished no more , but are instead used as a role model for all other British children.

PRAISE BE TO ALLAH ; - )
BC1959 on July 5th, 2008 4:30 pm

Where’s Alan Sugar when you need him? Surely someone like him, hard nosed, ”you’re fired” no none-sense businessman, and an observant Jew, should be setting an example to the rest of British society. He is against the BNP when it suits him, but he’s not ready to allow his offspring to engage in ”enrichment” as the Mail on Sunday reported last year. Come on you foreign born British haters, let’s see some honesty eh? Why not start a real crusade, and have people like Sir Alan, give us all examples, and have the first high profile Jew/Muslim marriage? Come on, it’s good for the rest of us to ”engage”… sorry, force our white Christian kids to.
Angryman on July 5th, 2008 5:00 pm

The children who resisted this child abuse should be given an award by the BNP on behalf of all patriots.
sad4theuk on July 5th, 2008 5:02 pm

I have sent an email to the school saying basically that this behaviour from a teacher is unacceptable and that the teacher should be dismissed after being made to apologise to all the children and parents concerned. I asked what action they intended to take now.

Don’t suppose I’ll hear back from them, but if I get a reply I’ll post it here.

-

Righto, thanks - Ed
Allan@Aberdeen on July 5th, 2008 5:09 pm

“I attend this school, and the teacher I’m pretty sure is christian.”
- Tate

Indeed, and Rowan Williams (Archbishop of Canterbury) also claims to be a Christian - yet he advocates sharia law. So what is a Christian who advances the cause of another belief system, and the most vicious and dangerous of all?
Chriswill on July 5th, 2008 6:26 pm

Muslims can refuse to sign Christmas carols or take part in traditional British culture, not wanting to worship what they believe to be the ‘wrong’ truth to life. However is it only Muslims who are entitled to rights?
This is all thanks to our excellent PC brigade. They have not only caused ‘Our’ traditions of the Caucasion section of mankind to be stopped where they can (in fear of upsetting a minority). They now want us, the majority, to leave our own country or become part of the new Islamic order!
As far as I’m concerned “the needs of the many” (us) “outweigh the needs of the few” (the minorities); they should adopt our ways or begone. BTW Spock from Star Trek must be a right ‘Nazi’ ‘Racist’ or ‘Fascist’ as those are his words.
brit-ben on July 5th, 2008 8:23 pm

I am in total agreement with all of the comments posted . It is outrageous that this brainwashing of our children, in the guise of RE, has been going on. My anger was further inflamed upon reading an article in yesterday’s Independent in which the Labour MP, Shahid Malik,described muslims as being the ‘new Jews of Europe’. He goes on to say that many British Muslims feel alienated in their their own country. In a week which has seen a judge wanting to give the green light to sharia law in the UK and the ‘outrage’ over the puppy in the policeman’s hat - now this - I think it is actually US who are beginning to feel alienated. There are some interesting comments in the ‘have your say’ on this topic in the Independent,including an American who says he would vote for BNP if he lived here!!!!!
mickdeb on July 5th, 2008 9:34 pm

One more step in the islamification of my country. Wake up all you true Brits before it’s too late to get your country back.
Herbert Thornton on July 5th, 2008 10:49 pm

The only heartening part of the news about this teacher’s monstrous actions is reading that two small British lads had the courage to refuse to comply with her outrageous commands.

Brit-ben mentions Shahid Malik’s description of Muslims as the ‘new Jews of Europe’. No wonder that Brit-ben’s anger was inflamed. Shahid Malik’s description is more than mere distortion. It is indecent and diametrically opposite to the truth. The truth is that extremist Islam is the New Naziism, and Kristalnacht and the burning of the Reichstag are paralleled by 9/11, and by the London and Madrid bombings.
Artorius on July 6th, 2008 12:26 am

@ Herbert Thornton

Regarding the subversive NuLabour MP Shahid Malik and his parents’ jihadist agenda:

The ‘given name’ in Islam corresponds to what we infidels call a ‘Christian name’, which in times past in Christendom was often religious in nature, expressing the parents’ hopes for the child e.g. Christopher - bearer of Christ.

‘Malik’ is the family name, but ‘Shahid’ is the given-name chosen by his father, which is an indicator of extremely violent Jihadism, in fact it “is a religious term in Islam, meaning “witness”, as stated, but most often “martyr.” It is used as a title for Muslims who have died fulfilling a religious commandment, or waging war for Islam. ” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martyr_%28shahid%29

Do we really want somebody with that sort of indoctrination into hatred from infancy as a member of what is still a British Parliament in a Christian Country?

Voters of Dewsbury - get rid of this Shahid at the next election! (assuming he doesn’t go into autodestruct mode first in a train, bus or airport somewhere in Dar al-Harb)

P.S. ‘Shahid’ is sometimes spelt ‘Shaheed’ - either way it means trouble!

“I HAVE BEEN MADE VICTORIOUS WITH TERROR!” - Mohammed
jao7 on July 6th, 2008 12:14 pm

Robstew48
I think you will find the RE teacher was of the ‘Masosadiselflagellists’ religion.
Artorius on July 6th, 2008 1:04 pm

DISRESPECTFUL TO THE PROPHET

More information about their crime. The children were punished for being ‘disrespectful’ to the paedophile rather than to the moon-demon.

“CHESHIRE council has launched an investigation after pupils were punished for refusing to kneel and pray to Allah during a religious education lesson.

Parents complained after the two boys, year 7 pupils at Alsager high school, were given detention for being “disrespectful” to the prophet.”

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpool-news/local-news/2008/07/05/pupils-were-disrespectful-of-prophet-100252-21266936/
Artorius on July 6th, 2008 1:37 pm

Sniffer dogs to wear ‘Muslim’ bootees

Police sniffer dogs will have to wear bootees when searching the homes of Muslims so as not to cause offence.

Guidelines being drawn up by the Association of Chief Police Officers (Acpo) urge awareness of religious sensitivities when using dogs to search for drugs and explosives. The guidelines, to be published this year, were designed to cover mosques but have been extended to include other buildings.

Where Muslims object, officers will be obliged to use sniffer dogs only in exceptional cases. Where dogs are used, they will have to wear bootees with rubber soles. “We are trying to ensure that police forces are aware of sensitivities that people can have with the dogs to make sure they are not going against any religious or cultural element within people’s homes. It is being addressed and forces are working towards doing it,” Acpo said.

Problems faced by the use of sniffer dogs were highlighted last week when Tayside police were forced to apologise for a crime prevention poster featuring a german shepherd puppy, in response to a complaint by a Muslim councillor.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article4276489.ece
KGO on July 6th, 2008 5:09 pm

I am a trained R.E teacher. I do not teach but I can tell you now this is definately NOT part of the curriculum. The Religious Education Curriculum states that children should be shown how other cultures/religions worship, not be forced to take part
Parents do have the right to withdraw their children from R.E lessons if they desire.
Lickyalips on July 6th, 2008 8:27 pm

Having read the islamobabble about ‘learning is understanding’ and ‘we have a duty to educate our pupils in various religions’ and ‘ we live in a multicultural society … blah blah blah’ from the school Principal and from the ‘Education spokesperson’ at Cheshire County Council - it has just occurred to me to ask if these ’spokespersons’ and all their staff and psychophants (sic) have themselves knelt down and prayed to allah…and if not why not? Don’t the same principles of learning and understanding in our multicultural society apply to them, or is it only for impressionable school children?
We should be told. Perhaps we should ask them directly.
jdboss on July 7th, 2008 8:20 pm

I am 19 years old. When I was back in year 5 I had a Muslim teacher who made us do moon charts for homework to work out when she had to fast.
renamae on July 11th, 2008 7:20 pm

This is disgusting, but not surprising … The west needs to wake up to what’s happening! This must be stopped!
mb1968nz on January 15th, 2009 9:22 am

This is disgusting - forcing children to bow down to a religion founded by a child raper and murderer. If teachers are going to teach about islam teach the truth!
Ruth Nessim on February 27th, 2009 12:18 pm

Amen from a believer in Israel. We must not bow down to them but lead them to the Saviour, and His name is Jesus(Yeshua):, not Allah. Ruth

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